Re: Lance Armstrong Reply #16 – October 22, 2012, 05:38:39 pm Quote from: tejuarr on October 22, 2012, 05:32:24 pmTo be fair fish I agree with that, this Armstrong affair has made people question Wiggins' integrity, rightly so he's not happy about it.But there's a fine line, I see protein shakes at the gym as being an unfair advantage if you see what I mean.My brother used them shakes a lot, did not do him a lot of good to be honest. He got hooked, and we to find away to get him off, he still hits the gym, but has no shakes. I was thinking about Wiggin's and you just pray he has not done the same thing. Its like something you see in Hollywood movies, I mean its a huge scandal or a massive scale. As big as what Tiger Woods did. Just a shame its Lance Armstrong.I herd about these fights and place in Madrid
Re: Lance Armstrong Reply #17 – October 22, 2012, 06:46:35 pm Well as an ex-racing cyclist myself I've seen it all before. Never ever liked Armstrong, always thought there was something wrong. And yes I do believe he is a cheat and no way do I want to defend him, but this is all nicely stacked against him. Many of the so called 'friends' giving evidence against him are dopers as well, but they've been granted leniency for there testimony!! So what do you think they are gonna do?The guy who has been after him for so many years gets a reward for finding dopers - is that a good or bad thing? He said that the USAC would strip Armstrong of his titles, but thats not possible only the UCI can do that. he even took the move of releasing information before Armstrong could defend himself. Well the info's out there now, who is gonna believe him?Yes he's a cheat, and yes he should be banned. Very much doubt he was gonna race again anyways, so token gesture. Not sure I quite believe he is the devil as pictured in all this, a lot of companys may loose a lot of money over this so best to pin the blame elsewhere.Cycling has one of the most, if not the best anti-doping tests around, and if found they do tend to come down like a ton of bricks on you. As a cyclist you cant miss a test, they may even turn up at your house. How many other sports go this far? Can just imagine now "oh I forgot, I went shopping" and you know who I mean.Generally cycling is a clean sport, but because of the rigorous tests they tend to get found on the whole quite quick.And as for Bradley Wiggins, well this was one of the slowest Tours on record, so that in itself may say something. Maybe things are looking good?
Re: Re: Lance Armstrong Reply #18 – October 22, 2012, 06:52:56 pm Quote from: Plantsman on October 22, 2012, 06:46:35 pmWell as an ex-racing cyclist myself I've seen it all before. Never ever liked Armstrong, always thought there was something wrong. And yes I do believe he is a cheat and no way do I want to defend him, but this is all nicely stacked against him. Many of the so called 'friends' giving evidence against him are dopers as well, but they've been granted leniency for there testimony!! So what do you think they are gonna do?The guy who has been after him for so many years gets a reward for finding dopers - is that a good or bad thing? He said that the USAC would strip Armstrong of his titles, but thats not possible only the UCI can do that. he even took the move of releasing information before Armstrong could defend himself. Well the info's out there now, who is gonna believe him?Yes he's a cheat, and yes he should be banned. Very much doubt he was gonna race again anyways, so token gesture. Not sure I quite believe he is the devil as pictured in all this, a lot of companys may loose a lot of money over this so best to pin the blame elsewhere.Cycling has one of the most, if not the best anti-doping tests around, and if found they do tend to come down like a ton of bricks on you. As a cyclist you cant miss a test, they may even turn up at your house. How many other sports go this far? Can just imagine now "oh I forgot, I went shopping" and you know who I mean.Generally cycling is a clean sport, but because of the rigorous tests they tend to get found on the whole quite quick.And as for Bradley Wiggins, well this was one of the slowest Tours on record, so that in itself may say something. Maybe things are looking good?As a sports myself. Martial arts. I compete in all types of open comps and we have drug test before a open comp. We now have to do a test on competition day. It's mental how people can get away with it. I would not even know where to start. Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
Re: Lance Armstrong Reply #19 – October 22, 2012, 07:09:51 pm and trying to pee in a bottle aint easy when you've just ridden 130 miles!! Theres not exactly a lot of liquid left in your body lol Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 07:13:59 pm by Plantsman
Re: Lance Armstrong Reply #20 – October 23, 2012, 08:19:28 am Quote from: Plantsman on October 22, 2012, 07:09:51 pmand trying to pee in a bottle aint easy when you've just ridden 130 miles!! Theres not exactly a lot of liquid left in your body lolplantsman if one of the best sports man in the world at that time just done 130 miles on a bike im sure pee in a bottle would be abit of piss
Re: Lance Armstrong Reply #21 – October 23, 2012, 11:52:40 am Quote from: shooky99 on October 23, 2012, 08:19:28 amplantsman if one of the best sports man in the world at that time just done 130 miles on a bike im sure pee in a bottle would be abit of piss I was refering to myself, so thankyou for thinking of me as one of the best sportsmen in the world
Re: Lance Armstrong Reply #22 – October 23, 2012, 12:13:34 pm Quote from: Plantsman on October 23, 2012, 11:52:40 amQuote from: shooky99 on October 23, 2012, 08:19:28 amplantsman if one of the best sports man in the world at that time just done 130 miles on a bike im sure pee in a bottle would be abit of piss I was refering to myself, so thankyou for thinking of me as one of the best sportsmen in the world i bet your mummy and daddy do think you the best sportsman in the world planty